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pat buchanan at the 1992 convention in houston saying, you know, it's clinton and clinton. this rad kl feminist lawyer. we always forget at the start of the 2008 cycle, obama was the underdog and he was going to lose. that was the conventional wisdom. clinton was the bigger front-runner and republicans treated her that way. they wanted to fight the clinton restoration. they were treating obama as this well-meaning, good-natured reformer who would get mowed down by the ruthless, vindictive clinton machine. i always remember the moment and late winter and early spring of 2008 when it became clear obama would beat her. suddenly the right conservatives, republicans saying she was a radical jane fonda suddenly rediscovered hillary clinton as a white working class hero. she was like franc rizzo all of a sudden. the story of the last four years for hillary clinton is republicans laid down for her, and democrats have started -- the democrats with obama and resented her then have gotten over t. the iraq thing is a distant memory. we thought she was the dwroefr whelming front-runner
pat buchanan at the 1992 convention in houston saying, you know, it's clinton and clinton. this rad kl feminist lawyer. we always forget at the start of the 2008 cycle, obama was the underdog and he was going to lose. that was the conventional wisdom. clinton was the bigger front-runner and republicans treated her that way. they wanted to fight the clinton restoration. they were treating obama as this well-meaning, good-natured reformer who would get mowed down by the ruthless, vindictive...
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this thing should haunt hillary clinton. believe me it was a political decision by mrs. clinton to not go out and do those talk shows on sunday. it's one thing to come out bill and make a statement saying this is what i believe happened. it's another thing to sit for the committees. you put ambassador rice out there and everybody knows even chris wallace knew he couldn't pound her too hard because it's not her bailiwick. this thing should haunt hillary clinton. it should haunt barack obama and the american people, the second greatest tragedy here after the death of four americans is the fact that more americans are not pushing for answers on what happened in benghazi. >> bill: all right. there thor, thanks very much. and i must say that i'm an admirer of mr. thor's work. it's always very very interesting to read. when we come right back, it will be miller time. higher taxes, the royal pregnancy and unicorns all on the rundown tonight. miller is next. >> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the miller time s
this thing should haunt hillary clinton. believe me it was a political decision by mrs. clinton to not go out and do those talk shows on sunday. it's one thing to come out bill and make a statement saying this is what i believe happened. it's another thing to sit for the committees. you put ambassador rice out there and everybody knows even chris wallace knew he couldn't pound her too hard because it's not her bailiwick. this thing should haunt hillary clinton. it should haunt barack obama and...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. r heart health. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? house garden and encourages we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bac >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made effo
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. r heart...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they shortened early voting periods. well, it didn't work. minority turnout remained steady from 2008, and in some states it increased, like ohio. some civil rights leaders say it was those attempts at voter suppression that drove voters out to vote even if it meant standing in line for hours. what is clear is the republican party has a deeper problem
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll...
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number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to alex with the same question. i will argue that even though he hasn't specified the deductions or the loopholes he's going to close, the governor is right, there isn't enough at the top to close to make up for this advantage they have now but it seems he's accepting the moral argument. he's saying, the rich should get socked, too. that was an amazing admission for him to say to that. your thoughts. >> i agree with you. the fact that john boehner is out there saying we are asking the rich to pay more in taxes is not something they ever would have done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sitdo
number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll...
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. >> president obama pile on praise that sounds like anything but. a farewell for hillary clinton. i'm fighting a fiscal cough, so pardon that. if it's always darkest. it's clear the white house-re house-republican leaders, both sides appear to be very far apart, saluting kennedy center honorees from dustin hoffman to led zeppelin and hitting the golf links with former president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked into positions that remain far apart
. >> president obama pile on praise that sounds like anything but. a farewell for hillary clinton. i'm fighting a fiscal cough, so pardon that. if it's always darkest. it's clear the white house-re house-republican leaders, both sides appear to be very far apart, saluting kennedy center honorees from dustin hoffman to led zeppelin and hitting the golf links with former president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house...
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s father, george senior got along with clinton. called him practically a son. >> you can't imagine that happening with obama and romney. >> they don't like each other. we saw that in the debate. >> why do people -- you covered the campaign. this is not partisan. it's just an objects vague. why does everybody who runs against romney hate him? the rest of them, they walk off the debate platforms and hate the guy. >> i think it's the issue of a core and having a political core and consistent belief and obama likes to have a legal argument that fits together and romney's ideology doesn't do that. so i think there's not that kind of respect. >> do they think he's not a member of the club because he doesn't have a political philosophy. not just to be celebrities but to carry out a motive. they believe he lacks one and can't get along with other politicians who often seem to have a motive? >> bingo, chris. i think that's very true. and he doesn't have a job, either, mitt romney. >> well, you don't need a job if you're worth $250 billion.
s father, george senior got along with clinton. called him practically a son. >> you can't imagine that happening with obama and romney. >> they don't like each other. we saw that in the debate. >> why do people -- you covered the campaign. this is not partisan. it's just an objects vague. why does everybody who runs against romney hate him? the rest of them, they walk off the debate platforms and hate the guy. >> i think it's the issue of a core and having a political...
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you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is cer
you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded...
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obama's nemesis, as he often told us, are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this, they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we disagree. i think they may have a case. if the bogeyman is the millionaire -- >> i think that's where it's going to end up. i think that's the flexibility in the negotiations at the end is over whom the higher rates apply. >> but they don't raise that
obama's nemesis, as he often told us, are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate...
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bush became good friends with bill clinton. he calls him his son practically. this does work occasionally. >> you can't imagine that happening, though, with romney and obama. >> we saw them in the debate. they don't like each other. >> they don't like each other. there seems to be a personal animosity toward each other. they don't seem to respect one another. >> why do people, this is not partisan, an observation, why does everybody who run against romney hate him? mccain picked sarah palin, he hated him so much, rather than him as running mate. >> it's a core. >> and lacking one. >> obama as his legal background likes to have a legal argument that fits together. romney's ideology doesn't do that. i think there's not that -- >> do they believe he's not a member of the club, doug, because he country have a political philosophy. people like to say they live or die on what they believe. that's why they're in pub leg life, not just to be celebrities but to carry out a motive. do they believe he lacks one and that's why he can't get along with other politicians who
bush became good friends with bill clinton. he calls him his son practically. this does work occasionally. >> you can't imagine that happening, though, with romney and obama. >> we saw them in the debate. they don't like each other. >> they don't like each other. there seems to be a personal animosity toward each other. they don't seem to respect one another. >> why do people, this is not partisan, an observation, why does everybody who run against romney hate him?...
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a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off. she can sleep. she can write a book. she can do speaking appearances. she can be a mom to chelsea. >> maybe a grandmom. >> maybe a grandma. i don't know anything about that. and she can still decide to run. this is going to kill all these other democrats who are hoping to run because the field is frozen until she makes a decision. >> i want to talk to you about that, because you raise an interesting point there are a lot of folks who are suggesting one of the reasons we spend so much time talking about hillary ad nauseam is because there really aren't a whole lot of other democrats out there who could run and have a chance of winning. >> don't tell that to andrew cuomo there are a lot of people out there who are regarding their position as essentially frozen until -- >> the list is deep? >> the list of
a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off. she can sleep. she can write a book. she can do speaking appearances. she can be a mom to chelsea. >> maybe a grandmom. >> maybe a grandma. i don't know anything about that. and she can still decide to...
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. >> john mccain and barack obama can agree on one thing how great hillary clinton is. john mccain there right off the top singing her praises. yom who has been out front ripping susan rice apart in front of the media over benghazi. why isn't he going after hilary? >> well, i think he's scared of her. i think many people are scared of her. hell i'm scared of her. hillary clinton is sitting at 70% approval ratings in the country right now. that's a far rise from where she was when she left as first lady and the same for bill clinton. his numbers are through the roof as well. i expect those numbers to come down as we get closer and closer 2016. if john mccain actually were concerned about what happened in benghazi he should be hauling secretary clinton up to the hill to have an inquiry. she's secretary of state. they are responsible for embassy security but he won't do it. >> jimmy, thank you. >>> the other reason that the rice fight matters host of escalating tensions throughout the middle east. israel is feeling heat today from europe over its decision to expand settlem
. >> john mccain and barack obama can agree on one thing how great hillary clinton is. john mccain there right off the top singing her praises. yom who has been out front ripping susan rice apart in front of the media over benghazi. why isn't he going after hilary? >> well, i think he's scared of her. i think many people are scared of her. hell i'm scared of her. hillary clinton is sitting at 70% approval ratings in the country right now. that's a far rise from where she was when...
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>> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president obama's justice department did make the unusual step of deciding not to defend the constitutionality of doma, typically the justice department defends everything because it is the lawyer of the laws of the land. here they have the discretion to do otherwise. they did otherwise. it makes a difference. as the lower courts and potentially the supreme court, as they look at this, they look to the political branches and now we have the president of the united states, one of the political branches saying this is not constitutional, it violates equal protection, should be to a heightened scrutiny. you have arguments from holder we should look at discrimination against people who happen to be gay
>> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president obama's justice department did make the unusual step of deciding not to defend...
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the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age, means testing, things like that. so then we have about $600 billion in essentially spending cuts, half from mandatory spending, half from discretionary spending. this is the other very interesting thing that's new. $200 billion from revising the consumer price index. that sounds very technical. but it has very real world consequences because it very much could affect the money, the checks that social security recipients in particular get every single month because it effectively changes inflation so it changes the formula from what they would get. >> significant differences between the white hous
the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age,...
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but unlike bill clinton, they don't have relationships. boehner was there sunday night for the congressional christmas party. there was no conversation even monday night. i don't understand that. >> andrea, it's just bizarre, isn't it? i have seen the worst political enemies get together at events like that, shake hands, talk, commiserate about how tough -- i mean, i've never seen -- i have never seen washington like this, and i was here in the '90s when it was really, really ugly. >> you saw impeachment. you saw other things going on. >> bill clinton and newt gingrich had a personal conversation. both of them told me on the day bill clinton was being impeached, they were talking about iraq. they were talking about other personal things. they were saying, we're going to get through this. and when we get through this, we've got a lot of bigger things to work. that doesn't happen, does it, andrea? >> during impeachment, bill clinton was having people to camp david and talking to people who were putting him on trial in the senate. there is a
but unlike bill clinton, they don't have relationships. boehner was there sunday night for the congressional christmas party. there was no conversation even monday night. i don't understand that. >> andrea, it's just bizarre, isn't it? i have seen the worst political enemies get together at events like that, shake hands, talk, commiserate about how tough -- i mean, i've never seen -- i have never seen washington like this, and i was here in the '90s when it was really, really ugly....
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but the 39.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the vot
but the 39.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people...
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to barack obama, from john kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to talk about how they're going to slash spending in medicare, to save medicare, how they'll have to slash spending in medicaid to save medicaid. their political problem on the other side of this tax debate is so much bigger than the republican problem. they're being too clever by half here. >> both sides have complicated hands. and if the democrats, we achieve what the president and some democrats in the senate are asking for in a narrow way around taxes, you're absolutely right. just as an aside on the bush era, this is the first time we didn't go to war where we didn't pay for it. some o
to barack obama, from john kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll...